that southeast, but he just didn't find another team to push the panthers out of that. that's why he advanced them to the final four. >> i'll ask you about three teams because the president has personal political connections to three of them. number one, xavier, john boehner, speaker boehner, his new nemesis on capitol hill, what did he do with xavier? how quickly did he oust them? >> xavier out in first round, though i had them out in the second round, had them beating marquette. it is not surprising to not advance them very far. i would challenge -- i would challenge a lot of people to see if they really knew that john boehner was a graduate of xavier. >> fair enough. fair enough. how about louisville, mitch mcconnell's alma mater? what did doe with louisville? how far did he take them? >> he took them not as far as the final four but certainly -- i asked him about that, i was dismissed quickly that there was any political -- >> summarily out of hand. yeah. and then, of course, there is the reggie love connection, one of the president's close personal aides, reggie love, a former duke basketball player.